Apple Mac Studio (M5 Max, 40-core GPU) vs Framework Desktop (Ryzen AI Max+ 395)
The Apple Mac Studio (M5 Max, 40-core GPU) has 2.4× the memory bandwidth (614 against 256 GB/s), which sets the ceiling on generation speed. The cheapest Apple Mac Studio (M5 Max, 40-core GPU) lists for about $1,140 more than the cheapest Framework Desktop (Ryzen AI Max+ 395). Rows where the two differ are tinted.
Apple unified memory
Apple Mac Studio (M5 Max, 40-core GPU)
Mac Studio with the full M5 Max, configurable to 128GB of unified memory. At 128GB it holds a 70B dense model or a 120B-class MoE model at 4-bit inside the default GPU limit.
gpt-oss-20b, 4-bit: 132 tok/s
AMD unified memory
Framework Desktop (Ryzen AI Max+ 395)
A 4.5-liter desktop built around the full Strix Halo chip, sold as a DIY Edition you finish with your own SSD and OS. The 128GB version lets the GPU use 96GB, enough for a 70B dense model or a 100B-class MoE model at 4-bit.
gpt-oss-20b, 4-bit: 73 tok/s
| Specification | Apple Mac Studio (M5 Max, 40-core GPU) | Framework Desktop (Ryzen AI Max+ 395) |
|---|---|---|
| Kind | Apple unified memory · Apple | AMD unified memory · Framework |
| Chip or GPUs | M5 Max (18-core CPU, 40-core GPU) | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 |
| Memory | 48 GB, 64 GB, 128 GB | 64 GB, 128 GB |
| Memory for models | 96 GB (Default GPU limit)assumption | 96 GB (GPU-usable memory) |
| Other memory figure | 120 GB (Limit raised with sysctl)assumption | none |
| Memory bandwidth | 614 GB/s | 256 GB/s |
| Price | ~$3,099–$5,099 | ~$1,959–$3,449 |
| Largest at 4-bit, 8k context | Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B | Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B |
| Software | Metal, MLX | ROCm, Vulkan, DirectML |
| Power | 480 W | 400 W |
What each one runs
Every model in the catalog that at least one of the two holds at 4-bit with 8,192 tokens of context. Copper speeds are measured medians; outlined ones are estimates. Rows where only one fits, or where the speed differs by more than a quarter, are tinted.
| Model | Apple Mac Studio (M5 Max, 40-core GPU) | Framework Desktop (Ryzen AI Max+ 395) |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen3.8 Flash-Next125B, 6B active · 111.4 GB file | Fits with raised limitassumed limit39 tok/smedian of 2 runs | does not fit |
| Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B120B, 12B active · 81.0 GB file | 58 tok/smedian of 1 run | 15 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| Qwen3.5 122B-A10B122B, 10B active · 71.3 GB file | 58 tok/smedian of 4 runs | 20 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| Mistral Medium 3.5 128B128B · 69.8 GB file | ~6.0–7.5 tok/sestimate | ~2.3–2.8 tok/sestimate |
| GLM-4.5-Air106B, 12B active · 68.0 GB file | 53 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~15–19 tok/sestimate |
| Mistral Small 4 119B (2603)119B, 6.5B active · 67.6 GB file | 92 tok/smedian of 4 runs | ~30–39 tok/sestimate |
| Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E Instruct109B, 17B active · 60.9 GB file | ~20–36 tok/sestimate | 18 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| gpt-oss-120b117B, 5.1B active · 58.5 GB file | 90 tok/smedian of 4 runs | 52 tok/smedian of 5 runs |
| Qwen3 Coder Next80B, 3B active · 45.2 GB file | 98 tok/smedian of 3 runs | ~66–85 tok/sestimate |
| Llama 3.3 70B Instruct70B · 39.6 GB file | 13 tok/smedian of 3 runs | 4.8 tok/smedian of 4 runs |
| Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B30B, 3B active · 23.7 GB file | 142 tok/smedian of 2 runs | ~47–60 tok/sestimate |
| Qwen3.6 35B-A3B35B, 3B active · 20.8 GB file | 148 tok/smedian of 2 runs | 60 tok/smedian of 7 runs |
| Ornith 1.5 35B-A3B35B, 3B active · 20.2 GB file | 138 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~65–83 tok/sestimate |
| Qwen3 Coder 30B-A3B Instruct30.5B, 3.3B active · 17.3 GB file | 107 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~60–77 tok/sestimate |
| Gemma 4 31B IT30.7B · 17.1 GB file | 21 tok/smedian of 3 runs | 11 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| Granite 4.2 30B29.3B · 16.8 GB file | ~25–31 tok/sestimate | ~9.6–12 tok/sestimate |
| Qwen3.8 27B27B · 16.2 GB file | 34 tok/smedian of 2 runs | 12 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| Gemma 4 26B-A4B IT25.2B, 3.8B active · 15.9 GB file | 116 tok/smedian of 3 runs | 52 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| Qwen3.6 27B27B · 15.7 GB file | 33 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~10–12 tok/sestimate |
| Devstral Small 2 24B (2512)24B · 13.3 GB file | 38 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~12–15 tok/sestimate |
| gpt-oss-20b21B, 3.6B active · 10.8 GB file | 132 tok/smedian of 4 runs | 73 tok/smedian of 3 runs |
| Phi-414.7B · 8.3 GB file | ~51–63 tok/sestimate | ~20–23 tok/sestimate |
| Ministral 3 14B Reasoning (2512)13.9B · 7.7 GB file | ~55–68 tok/sestimate | ~21–25 tok/sestimate |
| Gemma 4 12B IT11.95B · 6.6 GB file | 44 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~24–29 tok/sestimate |
| Qwen3.5 9B9B · 5.3 GB file | 103 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~31–37 tok/sestimate |
| Granite 4.2 8B8.8B · 5.2 GB file | ~81–101 tok/sestimate | ~31–38 tok/sestimate |
| Gemma 4 E4B IT8B · 5.0 GB file | ~148–185 tok/sestimate | ~57–68 tok/sestimate |
| Qwen3 8B8.2B · 4.7 GB file | 92 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~35–41 tok/sestimate |
| Llama 3.1 8B Instruct8B · 4.6 GB file | 90 tok/smedian of 2 runs | 40 tok/smedian of 2 runs |
| Qwen3.5 4B4B · 2.6 GB file | 128 tok/smedian of 1 run | ~63–76 tok/sestimate |
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